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		<title>By: Capitalism: A Bull Market Concept &#124; Journey Across the Sky</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-12678</link>
		<dc:creator>Capitalism: A Bull Market Concept &#124; Journey Across the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy clears it up &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.kontentkonsult.com/2008/11/once-and-for-all.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;once and for all&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy clears it up <a href="http://news.kontentkonsult.com/2008/11/once-and-for-all.html" target="_blank">once and for all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Making My Way &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What capitalism needs - a response</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5686</link>
		<dc:creator>Making My Way &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What capitalism needs - a response</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Division by Zer0 (db0) has responded to the above in a new blog on his site entitled &#8220;Back to the needs of Capitalism&#8220;.  He&#8217;s clarified his argument somewhat, but it still remains fundamentally [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Division by Zer0 (db0) has responded to the above in a new blog on his site entitled &#8220;Back to the needs of Capitalism&#8220;.  He&#8217;s clarified his argument somewhat, but it still remains fundamentally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5661</link>
		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that education is a necessary step before any move to a better world. I am personally of the opinion that our main purpose should be to educate and make as many people as possible sceptical, critical and epicurean.    
  
Once a critical mass of such people is achieved, change will come.   
  
I believe the change will be towards socialism because of the flaws inherent in capitalism but of course that is meant to be seen.  
  
There is a big problem however in the sense that the people in power, wether those are Priests, Politicians or CEOs, as always - as has always happened in history - need the lower classes ignorant and struggling. What better way to sway them to their own agendas.  
  
In any case, I suggest you check what Marxism has to say on these issues and you may be surprised. I know I was, when I first started, as I expected foaming at the mouth revolutionaries and found out brilliant minds. You owe it to yourself to see the alternatives before you dismiss them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that education is a necessary step before any move to a better world. I am personally of the opinion that our main purpose should be to educate and make as many people as possible sceptical, critical and epicurean.    </p>
<p>Once a critical mass of such people is achieved, change will come.   </p>
<p>I believe the change will be towards socialism because of the flaws inherent in capitalism but of course that is meant to be seen.  </p>
<p>There is a big problem however in the sense that the people in power, wether those are Priests, Politicians or CEOs, as always &#8211; as has always happened in history &#8211; need the lower classes ignorant and struggling. What better way to sway them to their own agendas.  </p>
<p>In any case, I suggest you check what Marxism has to say on these issues and you may be surprised. I know I was, when I first started, as I expected foaming at the mouth revolutionaries and found out brilliant minds. You owe it to yourself to see the alternatives before you dismiss them.</p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5634</link>
		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And indeed, people who produce food have invested ways in cheaper or more productive food like geneticaly modified seeds...and then imposed artificial scarcity to keep the prices up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And indeed, people who produce food have invested ways in cheaper or more productive food like geneticaly modified seeds&#8230;and then imposed artificial scarcity to keep the prices up.</p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, the system was putting that comment in moderation. Not eating it. There should have been a message or something. 
There is no limit to the number of nested replies. 
 
If you want the system to remember you simply register an account with &lt;a href=&quot;http://intensedebate.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;intensedebate&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, the system was putting that comment in moderation. Not eating it. There should have been a message or something.<br />
There is no limit to the number of nested replies. </p>
<p>If you want the system to remember you simply register an account with <a href="http://intensedebate.com" target="_blank">intensedebate</a></p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/back-to-the-needs-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-5652</link>
		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not certain what you mean. You&#039;re saying that since regulations happened before they can happen again? I&#039;m not saying it won&#039;t happen again, I&#039;m saying that it will be dismantled more quickly and that it&#039;s merely postponing the problem for a while. 
  
You saw how monopoly regulation has ended up as a weak slap in the wrist. The &quot;punishment&quot; given to Microsoft in the start of the century was a joke. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not certain what you mean. You&#39;re saying that since regulations happened before they can happen again? I&#39;m not saying it won&#39;t happen again, I&#39;m saying that it will be dismantled more quickly and that it&#39;s merely postponing the problem for a while. </p>
<p>You saw how monopoly regulation has ended up as a weak slap in the wrist. The &quot;punishment&quot; given to Microsoft in the start of the century was a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like I should check out some of this stuff.  Another time, when it&#039;s more on topic, maybe we can take a closer look at different points. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like I should check out some of this stuff.  Another time, when it&#039;s more on topic, maybe we can take a closer look at different points.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should look deeper into marxism. 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Priests, Politicians or CEOs, as always - as has always happened in history - need the lower classes ignorant and struggling. What better way to sway them to their own agendas&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
 
The question, then, is why are these people bad (as it would seem you&#039;re saying).  Why aren&#039;t those who want good change, those whose internal economics value societal prosperity over personal prosperity, in positions of power?  Again, the problem of power getting into the wrong hands seems to be one of those problems that will plague any system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should look deeper into marxism. </p>
<blockquote><p>Priests, Politicians or CEOs, as always &#8211; as has always happened in history &#8211; need the lower classes ignorant and struggling. What better way to sway them to their own agendas</p>
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<p>The question, then, is why are these people bad (as it would seem you&#039;re saying).  Why aren&#039;t those who want good change, those whose internal economics value societal prosperity over personal prosperity, in positions of power?  Again, the problem of power getting into the wrong hands seems to be one of those problems that will plague any system.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What your saying, then, is that public outcry is able to overcome the power of monopolies.  Given the extremely low level of education in the United States on relevant subjects (e.g. economics), public outcry isn&#039;t as high as should be against things like IP.  It would seem that any uneducated population will be manipulated.  Socialism/communism/capitalism will all produce certain people and groups that control the power if the average person is either a)given political power but no education to properly use it or b)given no political power. 
 
I get the sense that whatever fixes or necessary conditions you have for a better system would also &quot;fix&quot; whatever you see wrong with free markets. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What your saying, then, is that public outcry is able to overcome the power of monopolies.  Given the extremely low level of education in the United States on relevant subjects (e.g. economics), public outcry isn&#039;t as high as should be against things like IP.  It would seem that any uneducated population will be manipulated.  Socialism/communism/capitalism will all produce certain people and groups that control the power if the average person is either a)given political power but no education to properly use it or b)given no political power. </p>
<p>I get the sense that whatever fixes or necessary conditions you have for a better system would also &quot;fix&quot; whatever you see wrong with free markets.</p>
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