Comments on: Deliberate Obtusity http://dbzer0.com/blog/deliberate-obtusity "Frustratingly brilliant reasoning" -- The Atheist Blogger Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:47:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/deliberate-obtusity/comment-page-1#comment-57351 db0 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:08:19 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2604#comment-57351 <blockquote>Plus, 140 characters at a time does not facilitate a reasoned argument of complex principles. A natural shortcoming of the media, I suppose.</blockquote> I think I may start inviting people over here on a custom topic just to be able to discuss sanely. I don't expect people like this guy to come but some of my later conversation opponents might be willing ot

Plus, 140 characters at a time does not facilitate a reasoned argument of complex principles. A natural shortcoming of the media, I suppose.

I think I may start inviting people over here on a custom topic just to be able to discuss sanely. I don't expect people like this guy to come but some of my later conversation opponents might be willing ot

]]> By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/deliberate-obtusity/comment-page-1#comment-57350 db0 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:07:33 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2604#comment-57350 It's not an ideological VS practical implementation though as he kept arguing for something he called "Republic". I wouldn't have a problem to argue against an ideological concept of Capitalism either (as I do very often with Rothbardians). It's not an ideological VS practical implementation though as he kept arguing for something he called "Republic". I wouldn't have a problem to argue against an ideological concept of Capitalism either (as I do very often with Rothbardians).

]]> By: OpenMindedCapitalist http://dbzer0.com/blog/deliberate-obtusity/comment-page-1#comment-57348 OpenMindedCapitalist Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:56:03 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2604#comment-57348 Thanks for posting that twitter conversation - it was really interesting to witness it from the third-person perspective. What I find most interesting is how the argument alternates between ideological and utilitarian. You clearly believe that there has never been a true modern communist society (at least one that has lasted) so you can only argue ideologically for your side. Fair enough. The problem is that the other side (in this case, not the most worthy opponent) is left to defend actual implementation of the capitalist system beyond ideology. And no implementation is as perfect as an ideology, so he was waging an uphill battle from the start and never got traction. Plus, 140 characters at a time does not facilitate a reasoned argument of complex principles. A natural shortcoming of the media, I suppose. Thanks for posting that twitter conversation – it was really interesting to witness it from the third-person perspective. What I find most interesting is how the argument alternates between ideological and utilitarian. You clearly believe that there has never been a true modern communist society (at least one that has lasted) so you can only argue ideologically for your side. Fair enough. The problem is that the other side (in this case, not the most worthy opponent) is left to defend actual implementation of the capitalist system beyond ideology. And no implementation is as perfect as an ideology, so he was waging an uphill battle from the start and never got traction.

Plus, 140 characters at a time does not facilitate a reasoned argument of complex principles. A natural shortcoming of the media, I suppose.

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