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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://dbzer0.com/blog/misunderstanding-communism-its-not-ussr/comment-page-1#comment-92969</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just passing by and noticing what was said here. Well said. Communism is simply making everyone &quot;equal&quot;; I use the quotes because some might become irate after merely suggesting it... but what do you think about Communism? Can it work? Just from sheer curiousity... the way the world is now, some would support it, others would oppose it. I&#039;d like to hear your feedback.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just passing by and noticing what was said here. Well said. Communism is simply making everyone &quot;equal&quot;; I use the quotes because some might become irate after merely suggesting it&#8230; but what do you think about Communism? Can it work? Just from sheer curiousity&#8230; the way the world is now, some would support it, others would oppose it. I&#039;d like to hear your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No he means to say that it WAS NOT COMMUNISM and i am entirely in agreement, Marx layed out the rules of Communism and the Soviet Union was not coherent with these rules and by extension of that was not Communist. As i always say about the Soviet Union and China- you can call a chair a table but it doesn&#039;t make it any more true then you eating your meals off that chair. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No he means to say that it WAS NOT COMMUNISM and i am entirely in agreement, Marx layed out the rules of Communism and the Soviet Union was not coherent with these rules and by extension of that was not Communist. As i always say about the Soviet Union and China- you can call a chair a table but it doesn&#039;t make it any more true then you eating your meals off that chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Aranfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aranfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude!  It had money!  Communism cannot have money!  It&#039;s in the definition! 
 
That said, most genuine Communist attempts have also failed.  IIRC, in the Spanish Civil War all anarcho-communist communes found the need to switch to anarco-collectivism or to mutualism. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude!  It had money!  Communism cannot have money!  It&#039;s in the definition! </p>
<p>That said, most genuine Communist attempts have also failed.  IIRC, in the Spanish Civil War all anarcho-communist communes found the need to switch to anarco-collectivism or to mutualism.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t mean to say that the Soviet Union wasn&#039;t Communist, you mean to say that it wasn&#039;t Communist as envisioned by Marx and Engels.  The same way America isn&#039;t Capitalist as envisioned by Smith.  This was boring. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#039;t mean to say that the Soviet Union wasn&#039;t Communist, you mean to say that it wasn&#039;t Communist as envisioned by Marx and Engels.  The same way America isn&#039;t Capitalist as envisioned by Smith.  This was boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Party leader sparks communism controversy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Party leader sparks communism controversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Re: Left Party leader sparks communism controversy     RoP I think this article accurately refutes your assumptions. What happened with the USSR is quite accurately described as State Capitalism, not at all what Marx proposed. Try and read it.  Was the USSR Communist? &#124; A Division by Zer0 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Re: Left Party leader sparks communism controversy     RoP I think this article accurately refutes your assumptions. What happened with the USSR is quite accurately described as State Capitalism, not at all what Marx proposed. Try and read it.  Was the USSR Communist? | A Division by Zer0 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism is only freedom incarnate for those who have already consolidated businesses into massively wealthy enterprises. It&#039;s anything but democratic because it concentrates economic power in so few hands that enterprise is &quot;free&quot; primarily, if not only, for them. The wealthiest 20% of U.S. families own 83 percent of all the wealth, the top ten percent own 71 percent, and the wealthiest 1 percent have almost 40%. By comparison, the bottom 40% own 0.2% of the wealth. I don&#039;t see what&#039;s so wonderful about this lopsided distribution of wealth. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism is only freedom incarnate for those who have already consolidated businesses into massively wealthy enterprises. It&#039;s anything but democratic because it concentrates economic power in so few hands that enterprise is &quot;free&quot; primarily, if not only, for them. The wealthiest 20% of U.S. families own 83 percent of all the wealth, the top ten percent own 71 percent, and the wealthiest 1 percent have almost 40%. By comparison, the bottom 40% own 0.2% of the wealth. I don&#039;t see what&#039;s so wonderful about this lopsided distribution of wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Poll: Are we on the right path? - Page 4 - Weapons Cache Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poll: Are we on the right path? - Page 4 - Weapons Cache Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vague trivia to &#109;&#101;; it&#039;s family history.  However, I would point you to this article: Was the USSR Communist? &#124; A Division by Zer0Read it or not. Up to you. I am again going to argue that Russia was not a communist country, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vague trivia to &#109;&#101;; it&#039;s family history.  However, I would point you to this article: Was the USSR Communist? | A Division by Zer0Read it or not. Up to you. I am again going to argue that Russia was not a communist country, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
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		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do they get them from now? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do they get them from now?</p>
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		<title>By: JustAsking</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAsking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where would the workers get the tools and materials to produce the product that they will keep and sell themselves? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where would the workers get the tools and materials to produce the product that they will keep and sell themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: db0</title>
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		<dc:creator>db0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but the argument that State Socialism improved the lives of the countries it was enforced in doesn&#039;t hold much water. First of all it improved them in some ways but worsened them in others (especially in all areas of personal freedom). Capitalism can boast of much of the same thing where it significantly improved the lives of those nations implementing them. It&#039;s just that the costs of Stalinism were taken on by their own people while the costs of Capitalism where outsourced via imperialism. 
 
As for it even being called &quot;Socialism&quot; I&#039;ll have to disagree. The workers did not own their means of production. Hell, they were not even allowed to change work without permission from the bureaucracy. The bureacracy owned the means of production. They were the capitalists in this sense and this is why USSR is more accurately described as state capitalism.  
 
My stance on USSR is that it&#039;s no better than any other capitalist or class society. It&#039;s not only flaws, anymore than Capitalism is only flaws, but we can do so much better. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but the argument that State Socialism improved the lives of the countries it was enforced in doesn&#039;t hold much water. First of all it improved them in some ways but worsened them in others (especially in all areas of personal freedom). Capitalism can boast of much of the same thing where it significantly improved the lives of those nations implementing them. It&#039;s just that the costs of Stalinism were taken on by their own people while the costs of Capitalism where outsourced via imperialism. </p>
<p>As for it even being called &quot;Socialism&quot; I&#039;ll have to disagree. The workers did not own their means of production. Hell, they were not even allowed to change work without permission from the bureaucracy. The bureacracy owned the means of production. They were the capitalists in this sense and this is why USSR is more accurately described as state capitalism.  </p>
<p>My stance on USSR is that it&#039;s no better than any other capitalist or class society. It&#039;s not only flaws, anymore than Capitalism is only flaws, but we can do so much better.</p>
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