Comments on: What about discrimination against men? http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men "Frustratingly brilliant reasoning" -- The Atheist Blogger Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:34:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79786 db0 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:20:15 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79786 It's like you ignored all the points I made in the article on why this is not discrimination... It's like you ignored all the points I made in the article on why this is not discrimination…

]]> By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79780 db0 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:42:33 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79780 It's funny that you think the only for someone to be expressing the opinion that I do is when I "hate men", which is simply your misogyny showing. You just can't imagine someone, especially another man, expressing this opinion without being driven by "hatred", i.e. irrationality. Bonus points for misunderstanding Anarchism. It's funny that you think the only for someone to be expressing the opinion that I do is when I "hate men", which is simply your misogyny showing. You just can't imagine someone, especially another man, expressing this opinion without being driven by "hatred", i.e. irrationality.

Bonus points for misunderstanding Anarchism.

]]> By: Mason Macleod http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79777 Mason Macleod Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:05:39 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79777 Sorry about the multiple post. Unintentional Sorry about the multiple post. Unintentional

]]> By: Mason Macleod http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79774 Mason Macleod Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:56:50 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79774 By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare too well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant, or objectified. Men are often objectified as sperm donors (not honoured as fathers) or financial resources, but we just deal with it. By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare too well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant, or objectified. Men are often objectified as sperm donors (not honoured as fathers) or financial resources, but we just deal with it.

]]> By: Mason Macleod http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79773 Mason Macleod Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:41:10 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79773 First of all, you are dead wrong. Any discrimination based on gender is wrong. period. If you expect men to embrace a gender neutral society, which I believe most men born after 1969 want to, you cannot allow fairness to take second place to a political agenda. This means we must have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. Period. In my humble opinion, any philosophical opinion which changes when the gender is reversed is wrong. That is the basis of equality. The other false assumption you are making is that when anything bad happens to a woman or child, somehow there is always a man to blame. The majority of child homicides, for example are committed by the mother. That does not mean that all women are child murderers, so it is faulty logic to use similar logic to paint all men with the same brush in any situation. A society in which any form of male success is not allowed to be viewed positively is a matriarchy. The whole patriarchy thing is a myth anyway. Women control the vote (51%), they control the majority of dollars spent, they have representation in high office, they have far more attention in health care dollars spent, a longer life span, far more women only programs paid for by tax dollars, far better outcomes in divorce and custody, I could go on and on, but I won't. You can't abolish injustice with injustice, institute freedom by means of slavery, or expect someone to accept status as a second class citizen to "right a wrong". Equality has a simple meaning. All the feminist rhetoric in the world can't change it. First of all, you are dead wrong. Any discrimination based on gender is wrong. period. If you expect men to embrace a gender neutral society, which I believe most men born after 1969 want to, you cannot allow fairness to take second place to a political agenda. This means we must have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. Period. In my humble opinion, any philosophical opinion which changes when the gender is reversed is wrong. That is the basis of equality. The other false assumption you are making is that when anything bad happens to a woman or child, somehow there is always a man to blame. The majority of child homicides, for example are committed by the mother. That does not mean that all women are child murderers, so it is faulty logic to use similar logic to paint all men with the same brush in any situation. A society in which any form of male success is not allowed to be viewed positively is a matriarchy. The whole patriarchy thing is a myth anyway. Women control the vote (51%), they control the majority of dollars spent, they have representation in high office, they have far more attention in health care dollars spent, a longer life span, far more women only programs paid for by tax dollars, far better outcomes in divorce and custody, I could go on and on, but I won't. You can't abolish injustice with injustice, institute freedom by means of slavery, or expect someone to accept status as a second class citizen to "right a wrong". Equality has a simple meaning. All the feminist rhetoric in the world can't change it.

]]> By: Mason Macleod http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79776 Mason Macleod Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:03:59 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79776 By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare to well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant. By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare to well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant.

]]> By: Mason Macleod http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79775 Mason Macleod Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:03:21 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79775 By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare to well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant. By the way, you better hope you don't get what you wish for. Equal rights for women don't often fare to well in war zones, which is what true anarchy would lead to. The only hope gender equality has is if both genders are nurtured and allowed to prosper. If you hate us, it would be self destructive to love you. I can only assume you hate men if you don't want us to succeed at anything. Why wouldn't someone of either gender be resentful of being considered irrelevant.

]]> By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79252 db0 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:46:54 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79252 Yes. Yes.

]]> By: Pavitra http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-79250 Pavitra Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:46:11 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-79250 To clarify: As I understand your argument, it <i>would</i> be acceptable for a man to use anti-discrimination law against an employer who refused on account of his sex to hire him as (say) a hairdresser, because hairdressing is a traditionally female-dominated activity. Is this correct? To clarify: As I understand your argument, it would be acceptable for a man to use anti-discrimination law against an employer who refused on account of his sex to hire him as (say) a hairdresser, because hairdressing is a traditionally female-dominated activity. Is this correct?

]]> By: db0 http://dbzer0.com/blog/what-about-discrimination-against-men/comment-page-1#comment-78845 db0 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:46:06 +0000 http://dbzer0.com/?p=2870#comment-78845 Way to miss the whole point. Way to miss the whole point.

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